Given that most boats spend even more of their time sitting idle than cars do, it does seem a shame that there's no mention of V2G in this podcast. A 226 kWh battery that spends the entire winter sitting in a garage (maybe not in California or Florida, but certainly in many parts of the country) is a heck of a potential resource.
Good pod as usual David. A couple of point. The most interesting electric boat work is happening outside on the US. Europe is much further ahead and foiling with the way to go for long range (non-wakeboard market). Electric jetskis already exist.
Decent convo... however: as a paid subscriber- and not even close to being a wealthy one, but one with a small man-made freshwater lake in view of my ~500 sq ft. apartment (in Hawai'i) as type this- this would have been substantially more interesting if it had been about electric boats more generally rather than an ad for Arc Boats… (ijs)
Love the pod and the pages, what Dave does and how he does it, but the episode title- "What's going on with electric boats?"- had me hoping for more...
Good that e-boats are progressing, however I cannot resist pointing out that wakeboard boats--no matter how they are powered--should be banned. If not entirely banned, then they should be allowed only in open waters at least 100 miles from shore. They are hugely annoying to canoeists, kayakers, sailors, anglers, swimmers, people seeking peace and solitude, wildlife, basically everyone who isn't getting their cheap thrills being towed behind the thing. And they cause a lot of shoreline erosion on lakes.
Love the idea- now someone needs to create a fishing boat for lakes that is more affordable. Think something you can buy at bass pro or the like. Most of the time in a fishing boat you’re trolling slowly or idle. Also love the simplicity of winterization!
I think this is bullshit. Electric boats especially recreational are not now or in the future going to be very popular. The majority of boat owners will not buy them unless forced. And then there will be a much bigger problem to deal with!
For ferries and possibly lake fishing boats, hydrofoils are the way to go, and there are companies building electric hydrofoils for this market (Candela, a Swedish company, is the most prominent).
However, it won't work for the market Arc is targeting with the Arc Sport, which is wakeboard boats. Wakeboarding, like water-skiing, involves getting towed behind a boat with a board strapped to your feet; unlike water-skiing, doing tricks while jumping over the boat's wake is the point of the sport. Consequently, the size and shape of the wake produced by the boat is a fundamental part of the sport.
Wakeboard boats therefore carry extra ballast and sometimes extra hull fittings specifically to generate the right wake size and shape. Yes, this increases the hull drag and therefore the amount of fuel required. As you may have judged from the costs quoted in this podcast, wakeboarders tend to be rich enough not to care.
Given that most boats spend even more of their time sitting idle than cars do, it does seem a shame that there's no mention of V2G in this podcast. A 226 kWh battery that spends the entire winter sitting in a garage (maybe not in California or Florida, but certainly in many parts of the country) is a heck of a potential resource.
Good pod as usual David. A couple of point. The most interesting electric boat work is happening outside on the US. Europe is much further ahead and foiling with the way to go for long range (non-wakeboard market). Electric jetskis already exist.
Decent convo... however: as a paid subscriber- and not even close to being a wealthy one, but one with a small man-made freshwater lake in view of my ~500 sq ft. apartment (in Hawai'i) as type this- this would have been substantially more interesting if it had been about electric boats more generally rather than an ad for Arc Boats… (ijs)
Love the pod and the pages, what Dave does and how he does it, but the episode title- "What's going on with electric boats?"- had me hoping for more...
Good that e-boats are progressing, however I cannot resist pointing out that wakeboard boats--no matter how they are powered--should be banned. If not entirely banned, then they should be allowed only in open waters at least 100 miles from shore. They are hugely annoying to canoeists, kayakers, sailors, anglers, swimmers, people seeking peace and solitude, wildlife, basically everyone who isn't getting their cheap thrills being towed behind the thing. And they cause a lot of shoreline erosion on lakes.
Love the idea- now someone needs to create a fishing boat for lakes that is more affordable. Think something you can buy at bass pro or the like. Most of the time in a fishing boat you’re trolling slowly or idle. Also love the simplicity of winterization!
I think this is bullshit. Electric boats especially recreational are not now or in the future going to be very popular. The majority of boat owners will not buy them unless forced. And then there will be a much bigger problem to deal with!
Make it a hydrofoil
For ferries and possibly lake fishing boats, hydrofoils are the way to go, and there are companies building electric hydrofoils for this market (Candela, a Swedish company, is the most prominent).
However, it won't work for the market Arc is targeting with the Arc Sport, which is wakeboard boats. Wakeboarding, like water-skiing, involves getting towed behind a boat with a board strapped to your feet; unlike water-skiing, doing tricks while jumping over the boat's wake is the point of the sport. Consequently, the size and shape of the wake produced by the boat is a fundamental part of the sport.
Wakeboard boats therefore carry extra ballast and sometimes extra hull fittings specifically to generate the right wake size and shape. Yes, this increases the hull drag and therefore the amount of fuel required. As you may have judged from the costs quoted in this podcast, wakeboarders tend to be rich enough not to care.