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Kevin Unusual-last-name's avatar

It's remarkable how little people are willing to pay for gas, which moves thousands of pounds of steel much farther and faster than they could by foot. Considering that burning fifty gallons of gas produces a ton of CO2 and moves an average 2017 model car 1250 miles (25 MPG), it's especially difficult to process that a carbon tax might add pennies per mile traveled. And when gas prices came down from the '08-'14 levels, people just got bigger, less efficient cars with the savings rather than pocketing it. It's maddening!

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Canada's carbon tax is beyond a proposal or a plan. The initial implementation has shown durability and equity. It started April 2019 with a "dividend" (unfortunately through a tax credit rather than a monthly check) at the same time as the $20/ton broad-based (not sector-based) carbon tax took effect. For each Province they published the estimated dividend and the increased household costs. The carbon tax was the major Conservative opposition talking point in the 2019 elections and Trudeau and the carbon tax prevailed. In April 2020 in the midst of the pandemic, Trudeau issued the carbon dividend/tax credit and implemented the annual $10/ton increase to $30/ton. Trudeau's comment: “Our plan on pricing pollution puts more money upfront into people’s pockets than they would pay with the new price on pollution. We’re going to continue to focus on putting more money in people’s pockets to support them right across the country.” (Citing the response to Ontario's cap and trade and conflating it with the carbon tax policy is not sound. The lessons learned from cap and trade problems are generally not relevant to a discussion of carbon tax policy, e.g., fluctuating prices, regulatory programs undermining cap and trade and resource shuffling, cap forecasting.)

[Related note: Thanks for your assessment of offsets. It would be of high value if you both took on the issue of documenting the fundamental flaws and assessing alternatives to offsets. The big corporates/banks/Big Green are gearing up to push it hard. Trading desks have not had such an opportunity since the 2008 mortgage meltdown.]

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